By Jeremy Nicholson
Today I’m going to depart from my usual article style to dialogue with you all a bit. Last Friday I published an article on “5 Ways to Indirectly Ask for a Date” and then began my long Memorial Day weekend. During the weekend, that article prompted passionate debate, both in my social discussions and online from readers. It appears that there are strong differences of opinion about the use of persuasion, influence, and compliance techniques in dating.
After listening to some of my friends’ reactions, I got to wondering what my readers thought. After all, it is a common expression to hear “all is fair in love and war”. But, is it true? Is it ok or even beneficial to be persuasive or influential? Is it just flirting? Does “everybody” manipulate a little anyway, in their initial hiding of embarrassing secrets, embellishment of strengths, and use of makeup, nice suits, or push-up bras? Or, should we argue for “radical honestly”? Is it only appropriate to be serious, authentic, and display our true selves for the judgment of potential dating partners? Those seem to be the two extremes…
Looking Unofficially at Both Sides
On one hand, during my weekend, I found people who approved of the use of indirect influence techniques to get a date. They (primarily women) thought such techniques were fun, flirty, and cute. They also saw nothing wrong with using such indirect methods. Essentially, they fell into the “all is fair” group.
On the other hand, I also found people who had reservations about the use of influence. They were primarily women as well (most men didn’t seem to have passionate opinions about it – at least in my social circles). These individuals felt that some of the techniques might be inauthentic and perhaps make someone feel pressured to accept a date they didn’t want. These folks fell into the “not fair” group.
My Thoughts on the Debate
Personally, I was not expecting the debate at all. In fact, I was a bit surprised that some (particularly women) had reservations about the techniques, for two reasons. First, I actually created the article at the prompting of a woman. She had read my “Just Ask” articles, liked them, but couldn’t see herself being so “direct”. So, the techniques were created with women’s use in mind, who might not want to be seen as aggressive, forward, or bold by asking directly. Second, I have a small readership who screen my articles before I publish them. The majority of that group is women, some very conservative and proper. None of them offered any reservations about the techniques.
The only sense I can personally make of it is that perhaps it is a difference of perspective. The people who liked the techniques seemed to be primarily thinking about using them with others. Those who didn’t care for the techniques, were primarily thinking about their reactions to others using the techniques on them. So, perhaps we have a double standard? My (very unofficial) asking around seemed to support this idea. Some of the people I know in the “not fair” group are also among the most “influencing” and “persuasive” people I know. So, I wonder. Do people want to be “influential”, but also not be influenced by others?
Conclusion
Personally, I think being persuasive, influential, and seeking compliance is unavoidable. Everyone influences others every day, and is influenced in return. In fact, as I pointed out during my socializing, the people speaking out against using such techniques the most “passionately”, were also being influential and coercive in their arguing. They were using the very same techniques they were arguing against!
We are all mostly comfortable with this fact about influence when we persuade others to donate to a charity or give blood. We’re still pretty comfortable when it comes time to sell a car. But, some get cold feet when it comes to being persuasive in dating. It is almost like, in dating, it is somehow “less fair”. But, in my opinion, you are only being “unfair” or “ripping someone off” if you persuade them to “buy” something that isn’t worth much, or doesn’t give them something in return. That includes dating too.
So, maybe the problem with persuasion in dating is not ethics, but rather perceptions of self-worth and intentions to share with a partner after the date is secured? While I am okay with a bit of influence to get a date’s attention, I firmly believe it is important to make sure they are “getting a good deal” too. Personally, I do draw a line between indirect asking and making false promises. I think intentions should always be good and equitable.
In the end though, I recognize that there are many styles of love and each person has preferences. That is why I try to mix up my advice from “mild” to “spicy”. Some people are straight-forward and concrete, others indirect and flirty…most in the middle. My job is to know it all and dish it up as each person needs it.
I am curious though…where do you stand? What is your style? Is “all fair in love and dating”? Why or why not?







